thats very disappointing. hell i meen hondas have taken over. has anyone else seend that disturbing ad titled "Civic Nation" with a bunch of ricy civics. the world is a civic nation. they are everywere. in ocala were i live there is a wanna be pimped out civic on every street corner and on every road. im not exagerating at all. heres a saying i came across. "Racing in a Honda is like the Special Olympics, even if you win your still a retard." hearing that makes me feal better about myself.